Comments on: V is for Vendetta and Vagabond and Veggies and Vernal and… http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/v-is-for-vendetta-and-vagabond-and-veggies-and-vernal-and/ movies are the only god we believe in Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:59:13 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Whitney http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/v-is-for-vendetta-and-vagabond-and-veggies-and-vernal-and/#comment-344 Whitney Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:28:31 +0000 http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-344 The book is more nuanced in a lot of ways, just not in gender representations. And that's probably just for marketing reasons. In the behind the scenes they talk about how V's motives are questioned when he has so much concern for revenge, but I just don't see it. The government officials are just so evil that it seems completely just (without quotes) to punish them. And the weird thing is that Portman only seems to be physically attracted to him AFTER the torture. Messed up. The book is more nuanced in a lot of ways, just not in gender representations. And that’s probably just for marketing reasons.

In the behind the scenes they talk about how V’s motives are questioned when he has so much concern for revenge, but I just don’t see it. The government officials are just so evil that it seems completely just (without quotes) to punish them. And the weird thing is that Portman only seems to be physically attracted to him AFTER the torture. Messed up.

]]> By: Keith http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/v-is-for-vendetta-and-vagabond-and-veggies-and-vernal-and/#comment-343 Keith Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:18:04 +0000 http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-343 I'm surprised that the movie is more nuanced than the book. Does that EVER happen? V-the-movie didn't really do it for me, so I had planned on reading V-the-book under the assumption that it would logically have to be better. Knowing otherwise, I probably will anyway... but with caution! I did get to spend 2 hours feasting on Natalie Portman though, so that was worth it. (Speaking of sexism.) Thinking back, I kind of just regarded her character as one of those typical Stockholm syndrome-having wives/girlfriends who continues to defend their abusive significant other despite it obviously being a terrible idea. I guess the difference is (supposed to be) that V stands for a "just" cause? I dunno. Does the movie allow for that "just" to be in quotes? I mean, does it allow for any questioning of his actions? I seem to remember it being pretty clear-cut. Maybe I'll watch it again after all... I don't really remember it that well. I’m surprised that the movie is more nuanced than the book. Does that EVER happen? V-the-movie didn’t really do it for me, so I had planned on reading V-the-book under the assumption that it would logically have to be better. Knowing otherwise, I probably will anyway… but with caution! I did get to spend 2 hours feasting on Natalie Portman though, so that was worth it. (Speaking of sexism.)

Thinking back, I kind of just regarded her character as one of those typical Stockholm syndrome-having wives/girlfriends who continues to defend their abusive significant other despite it obviously being a terrible idea. I guess the difference is (supposed to be) that V stands for a “just” cause? I dunno. Does the movie allow for that “just” to be in quotes? I mean, does it allow for any questioning of his actions? I seem to remember it being pretty clear-cut. Maybe I’ll watch it again after all… I don’t really remember it that well.

]]> By: Whitney http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/v-is-for-vendetta-and-vagabond-and-veggies-and-vernal-and/#comment-342 Whitney Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:01:11 +0000 http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-342 I need to see that. My advisor has been wanting me to go further into this kind of manipulation and reeducation, and I think Marnie might really help me figure that out. Awesome! Thanks. I need to see that. My advisor has been wanting me to go further into this kind of manipulation and reeducation, and I think Marnie might really help me figure that out. Awesome! Thanks.

]]> By: brian http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/v-is-for-vendetta-and-vagabond-and-veggies-and-vernal-and/#comment-341 brian Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:44:55 +0000 http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-341 have you ever seen that hitchcock movie marnie? i haven't seen v for vendetta. actually i saw twenty minutes of it where she is headed over to her boss's house but gets hassled by the cops. anyway, marnie. so it's about this girl who is always stealing money from businesses she works for. then she steals money from sean connery's business. rather than get her arrested, he wants to study her because of this interest he has in zoology. the rest of the movie is connery manipulating marnie and marnie having to go along with it because connery could bust her for all those robberies. then he forces her to marry him. then he maybe rapes her. then she recovers her repressed memory. so it has this kind uncomfortable "rehabilitation" of females by males who are actively manipulating and can manipulate them because of the power they hold over them -- connery being able to get marnie arrested and whatever reason v has. i dont know if that makes sense. but the movie is really odd. pretty disturbing. and looks amazing. have you ever seen that hitchcock movie marnie? i haven’t seen v for vendetta. actually i saw twenty minutes of it where she is headed over to her boss’s house but gets hassled by the cops. anyway, marnie. so it’s about this girl who is always stealing money from businesses she works for. then she steals money from sean connery’s business. rather than get her arrested, he wants to study her because of this interest he has in zoology. the rest of the movie is connery manipulating marnie and marnie having to go along with it because connery could bust her for all those robberies. then he forces her to marry him. then he maybe rapes her. then she recovers her repressed memory. so it has this kind uncomfortable “rehabilitation” of females by males who are actively manipulating and can manipulate them because of the power they hold over them — connery being able to get marnie arrested and whatever reason v has. i dont know if that makes sense. but the movie is really odd. pretty disturbing. and looks amazing.

]]> By: Scott http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/v-is-for-vendetta-and-vagabond-and-veggies-and-vernal-and/#comment-335 Scott Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:02:32 +0000 http://dearjesus.wordpress.com/?p=114#comment-335 Consider yourself lucky having to watch graphic novel adaptations. You could be writing your thesis on video-game adaptations. Imagine fifty pages on the work of Uwe Boll. Yikes! I suck. I haven't read/seen V for Vendetta. I do take pleasure int he fact that the filmmakers decided to make her more intelligent, however, their reasons to do this might not have wandered further than "it'll make us more money." Either way, at least all the 13-year-old girls get a higher quality role model when they watch the film. Consider yourself lucky having to watch graphic novel adaptations. You could be writing your thesis on video-game adaptations. Imagine fifty pages on the work of Uwe Boll. Yikes!

I suck. I haven’t read/seen V for Vendetta. I do take pleasure int he fact that the filmmakers decided to make her more intelligent, however, their reasons to do this might not have wandered further than “it’ll make us more money.” Either way, at least all the 13-year-old girls get a higher quality role model when they watch the film.

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